Students to pay more for overloads and audit

Excessive fees are meant to decrease free-riding
May 1, 2009
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The administration explained that the rationale behind the decision is essentially to discourage free-riding. "Students who take a lot of overloads are making others pay for their education," Vice President (VP) for Finance and Administration Alexander Alexandrov said. "A student [who] takes six courses instead of five is more expensive to educate," Dean of Faculty Steven Sullivan said. This student pays for five courses and takes the sixth one at the expense of other students, he added.

The price students will pay for credit overload is a small portion of the actual credit price. "A credit costs [around] $400," Alexandrov said. Even if a student takes 19 credits per semester and pays $120 for the 18th and 19th credits, he or she will only spend one fourth of the actual price of one credit, he added.

Previously students had to pay $40 for each additional credit above 18. "The instigation for introduction of the overload fee [of $40 per each credit of 19 and up] a couple of years ago was the increase in students taking overloads," Sullivan said. "This proved to be an incentive not big enough for them to stop", he added. Because of this, the fees have been raised to the current levels.

The decision to charge students an overload fee even if the overload credit is taken on an audit basis was made after complaints by some professors. "Professors do not get credit for having more [auditing] students in class; these students do not influence the professor's allowance for making copies but expect to [be given] handouts," Sullivan said.

"There are good academic reasons for students [...] to want to audit a course: [if it] is a subject [of their] interest [but they] do not have the time to fulfill all the required commitments," Sullivan said. The second reason is to avoid paying for a course with the overload fee, he added. If a student is motivated by taking a class and not having to pay the overload fee for it, he or she is filling up the class at the expense of others, Sullivan said.

The reasons behind the new policy introduction are not financial, Alexandrov said. "It is a disincentive for people to stop abusing the system."

The policy of paying for credits that go over 132 has not changed.

"I agree with the policy. In some universities you have to pay separately for every credit you take," student Gezime Hasani said.

"It looks like the administration [is trying] to discourage students from taking more courses. The policy constrains students in their desire for knowledge," student Igor Gurkin said.

Student Giorgi Vakhtangashvili said he dislikes the policy. "Every other semester many courses have 15-20 students on the waiting list. In order to complete their double majors, they often need to take more than 17 credits," he said.

Comments

Two queries:

DeFacto might look at how schools in the US set these thresholds -- how many credits do most schools grant at the "base" price? Who else was on the APC committee to approve this, other than Sullivan? And why aren't the faculty / student reps explaining their rationale for agreeing with this (or disagreeing)?

Other *universities*

Check this out. It seems AUBG is not alone in its endeavors.

http://www.petitiononline.com/LRU18Tax/petition.html

adminsitration argued poorly the extra pay

This is a good petition, and I think is a reasonable one. I tend to agree the tax on extra credits looks like an "Ambition tax," and I disagree with the reasons Administration is giving. Students tend to take classes differently, which is what AUBG should be praising - the open market of student demands - and I am sure students who fall short of a class or two per semester are many, and have their reasons. I would rather see exactly those students as "abusing the system" than the ones who want to either graduate with more classes towards their major and curiousity, or graduate at all.

For one thing: I graduated a semester in advance for several reasons. The reason which is important here is that AUBG education was getting more and more expensive. When I figured out I could graduate earlier, with two extra classes in my senior year, I went for it. I am not sure the $120 would be such a disincentive - i would have probably found the money, but we would be talking about 120*7=840, which is not an insignificant amount for a graduating senior unless he is driving an X5 - but, overall, it's against the advertised values.

In fact, AUBG is not advertising its values to the extent that it may be held accountable for them, which is another issue to be addressed.

To quote Mr Sullivan "We must do what we say we do" - I fully agree. I am surprised Mr Sullivan is on the same part of the barricade with Provost and CFO (oh, sorry, VP of Finance) - Mr Sullivan had always proven to have had more guts and reason. I plead to Mr Sullivan to say what they do, and take students' into consideration. I know that students are not always reasonable, are always bitchy, and are never pragmatic. They tend to be emotional and childish. But, to avoid a commentary without cliches, students are AUBG's greatest assets. Ask any professor - a good professor - what's their reasons for coming and staying at AUBG. Ask the students - what are their reasons for coming and staying. Ask yourself.

Doesn't the number of the

Doesn't the number of the free riders match the number of those who are lagging behind?